Page 1491 - Week 06 - Wednesday, 2 May 1990
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MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, I will explain that point.
MR SPEAKER: Please elucidate, Mr Moore.
MR MOORE: Standing order 241 allows Dr Kinloch to answer the question because he is chairman of that committee. Standing order 242(b) now allows discussion on the matter that he brought up - and only the matter he brought up, not the other proceedings of the committee - and that is what I am discussing. It says:
(b) any press release or public statement made by the Presiding Member -
namely Dr Kinloch -
of a committee relating to an inquiry;
Therefore, standing order 241 no longer applies. Dr Kinloch lied to the house on that matter, because - - -
MR SPEAKER: Order! Please withdraw, Mr Moore.
MR MOORE: I will now prove it, Mr Speaker.
MR SPEAKER: But you have to raise it as a substantive motion; you cannot just make a general statement.
MR MOORE: I will withdraw the word "lie".
MR SPEAKER: Thank you.
MR MOORE: Dr Kinloch replied, in effect, that there was no such substantive motion, but the minutes of that particular committee meeting showed that the committee passed a motion similar to the one that I put - - -
Mr Collaery: I raise a point of order. This member persistently and flagrantly in every appearance here gives no acceptance of standing orders. This will continue until you make clear to this member that he is in a parliament.
MR SPEAKER: Mr Moore, you are referring to matters before the committee and proceedings in that committee. I believe - - -
MR MOORE: Standing order 241 does not apply to a public statement or to questions on a public statement made by the presiding member of the committee relating to an inquiry. That is what I am referring to, Mr Speaker.
Mr Kaine: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. This member does not have the right to dispute your ruling and to get into debate with you on it. I submit that he be told to get on with the business.
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