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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 14 Hansard (11 December) . . Page.. 5023 ..

Mr Osborne: Your record on the police speaks for itself.

MR WHITECROSS: We just have a different way of approaching these things, Mr Osborne, and it is not by arbitrarily doubling penalties. Speeding is a serious offence. Driving without due care and attention is a serious offence. Driving when you are so tired that you fall asleep at the wheel is a serious offence. Negligent driving is a serious offence. Drink-driving is a serious offence. These things are all serious offences, but we should prescribe appropriate penalties and apply those penalties in a consistent way, not arbitrarily change the penalties. That is what my disallowance is about.

Mr Osborne says that the Labor Party have some hang-up about the police. He repeated a Liberal lie that my first question in this place attacked the police.

Mr Osborne: You did, too. Your record speaks for itself.

Mr Kaine: I take a point of order on that.

MR WHITECROSS: It is not true, but I believe that we have to have decent law and order - - -

MR SPEAKER: There is a point of order. Sit down, Mr Whitecross.

MR WHITECROSS: I ask for an extension.

MR SPEAKER: Sit down and do as you are told.

Mr Kaine: Mr Whitecross made some remark about a Liberal lie. I would like him to withdraw that.

MR SPEAKER: I would like you to withdraw it, Mr Whitecross.

MR WHITECROSS: I withdraw.

MR SPEAKER: Your time has expired.

MR WHITECROSS: I ask for an extension of time since Mr Kaine interrupted me when I was near the end of my speech. (Extension of time not granted)

Mrs Carnell: Mr Speaker, I seek leave to make a brief comment on this.

Leave not granted.

Question put:

That the motion (Mr Whitecross's) be agreed to.

A vote having been called for and the bells being rung -

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