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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 5 Hansard (14 May) . . Page.. 1436 ..

MR SPEAKER: The Assembly has given Mr Berry leave to amend his motion. Order! It is getting very late. It is typical, of course, that we get into this situation. The Assembly has given Mr Berry leave to amend the motion.

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I accept that. I understand that. But I still would like to see it in writing because I am not sure what the amendment says. I have been given a copy of it here in - - -

Ms McRae: Good. Can you read it now?

MR HUMPHRIES: Unfortunately, it is in Mr Moore's writing, which makes it only barely legible.

Ms McRae: We cannot make up for your deficiencies.

MR HUMPHRIES: You look at this and you see what you think it means. Mr Speaker, let me say a couple of things about this.

Mr Moore: Why don't you sit down, and I will speak first? Then you can have a proper turn when you have got it in writing.

MR HUMPHRIES: This is mine. Get your own. Mr Speaker, there are a couple of things about which - - -

Mr Berry: What are you worried about?

MR SPEAKER: Order! We will get it over a lot faster if you do not interject.

MR HUMPHRIES: Let me say a couple of things about this. Mr Speaker, I think Mrs Carnell has raised a very good question. I do not know what a detail is. Mr Berry has referred to notes or minutes of meetings between the Chief Minister and officers of the Department of Health. That is a detail, is it? Fine. Are minutes of meetings in which the hospital waiting lists were discussed also details, Mr Berry?

Mr Berry: Of course. All details. All written details in relation to the matter.

MR HUMPHRIES: They are. Mr Berry said, "Minutes of meetings in which they were discussed". What if there is no record in the minutes of there having been discussion about those hospital waiting lists at those meetings? Is that included in the motion? Mr Speaker, I am asking legitimate questions and Mr Berry cannot answer those questions. I am trying to find out what details are.

Mr Berry: I can answer the question. You are squirming.

MR HUMPHRIES: Can you tell me? Is that last - - -

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