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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 5 Hansard (14 May) . . Page.. 1435 ..

MR BERRY (continuing):

(1) a copy of all details, excluding any information which may lead to the identification of any officer, which led to the adjustment to ACT Public Hospital waiting lists referred to in the Assembly by the Minister.

I think that covers the issue of identification.

MR SPEAKER: Can we have that in writing, Mr Berry.

Mrs Carnell: Can I ask for a clarification? Can I ask what a detail is?

Ms McRae: You cannot ask for a clarification. You can speak to the amendment.

Mrs Carnell: Mr Speaker just said I - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order! Is leave granted for Mr Berry to make the amendment to his motion?

Leave granted.

MR BERRY: Thank you, Mr Speaker. "Details" means every written detail which has occurred in relation to the matter, without reference to individual officers. Clearly, there are things that Mrs Carnell does not want this Assembly to find out about. I am inquisitive. Because of all the fuss that Mrs Carnell has made over waiting lists in the past, I think we are entitled to know exactly what is going on. This motion would uncover all of those details so that we can look at the issue in detail, if I may say so, Mr Speaker.

MR HUMPHRIES (Attorney-General) (5.40): I have not seen the wording of Mr Berry's amendment to his amendment, and I think it behoves him to produce it.

Mr Moore: No; it is an amendment to his motion.

Ms McRae: Yes, he got leave to include it. You could have said no. You did not.

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment. We are going to get it in writing.

MR HUMPHRIES: It is a quite long amendment. I will say no, but I do not know - - -

Mr Moore: It is too late, Gary. He has leave and he is going to do it.

Mr Berry: I have done it.

MR HUMPHRIES: All right. I am sorry. I do not know what I am debating, but okay; I accept that there is - - -

Ms McRae: You should have been listening instead of being such a pain in the neck.

MR HUMPHRIES: I was listening.

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