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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 14 Hansard (11 December) . . Page.. 4717 ..


Mr Moore: The record will show that this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

MR HUMPHRIES: I was sitting here all the time.

Mr Moore: The record will show that you were not in here, and I called a quorum to bring you in here.

MR HUMPHRIES: I was here. Mr Speaker, the record will show that I was here. I was sitting beside Mrs Carnell when the - - -

Mr Wood: The record does not go to that detail.

Mr Berry: I think the record will not show who was here.

MR HUMPHRIES: The record will now show that I was here, because I have said that I was here.

MR SPEAKER: The record will show only that there was not a quorum present; that is all.

MR HUMPHRIES: Is that a ruling, Mr Speaker?

MR SPEAKER: It is just a fact. It will be in the Hansard.

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I do not mind; if that is what Mr Moore says these words mean, that is fine. I do not think that is what they mean; but I gratefully accept his interpretation of what the words mean.

MR BERRY (3.58): Mr Speaker, the Opposition will not be supporting this amendment moved by Mrs Carnell.

Mr Humphries: That is not the question. The question is: What do the words mean?

MR BERRY: The words in the motion which were proposed by us are quite clear in their intent. It is clear that we cannot turn back the clock by this motion which is moved today and withdraw the call for expressions of interest; but move one inch beyond that and you are dead. That is the message. Our understanding is quite clear in relation to the matter. Mrs Carnell tries to take it a bit further, and we will not be supporting the amendment. Mr Speaker, I will confine my comments to the amendment. I know that there is another amendment to be moved, and I wish later to comment on Mrs Carnell's contribution to the debate as well. I just do not want to have to do it twice.


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