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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 12 Hansard (20 November) . . Page.. 3859 ..

Mr Moore: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. Mr Berry is irrelevant, because your ruling was that this matter be put to the Assembly.

MR SPEAKER: Correct.

Mr Moore: You made no other ruling at all - just that this matter be put to the Assembly. If the Assembly does not like it, then it will vote the issue down. Mr Speaker, Mr Berry is talking about whether or not it should be put down, not about whether or not it should be put to the Assembly.

MR BERRY: No, I am not. Mr Speaker, I have leave to move a motion. I have moved the motion of dissent and I wish to proceed with that motion.

MR SPEAKER: Of dissent from my ruling.

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I emphasise again that your ruling is simply that the motion can be put to the Assembly. There is no other part to your ruling at all. Mr Berry is not speaking about whether it should go to the Assembly or not. It is an absolute nonsense that Mr Berry is perpetrating here. It is absolutely ridiculous.

MR SPEAKER: I have to uphold that point of order. If you do not agree with my ruling, Mr Berry, you vote against it.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, I have leave to move a motion of dissent from your ruling to put this motion to the Assembly. Your interpretation of standing order 133 has been questioned, Mr Speaker. You have agreed to put a motion which is not complicated on the basis that it is. Read the standing orders. The fact of the matter is - - -

Mr De Domenico: In whose opinion?

MR BERRY: We disagree with the Speaker, and that is why we dissent from his ruling. If you think it is complicated, go for your life. Mr Speaker, you are going to have to make the decision about this. That is fine as far as we are concerned, but we disagree with the tactics which have been used by Mr Moore. Mr Moore put it - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order! You are disagreeing with my ruling.

MR BERRY: Yes, that is right.

MR SPEAKER: You are not disagreeing with tactics by Mr Moore. That is out of order.

Motion (by Mr Moore) agreed to:

That the question be now put.

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