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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 11 Hansard (26 September) . . Page.. 3464 ..

Mr Berry: It is a hypothetical matter because I clearly asked a question. I asked, "How much of this $700,000 is in fact going to be used to pay for administration of the scheme? How much of this $700,000 is going to be spent on training of workers? How much of this $700,000 is going to be used for transport to and from places of work? How much of this $700,000 is going to be used for chemicals? How much of this $700,000 is going to be used for occupational health and safety?". They are all questions, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I do not know whether that was a point of order. Continue, Mr De Domenico.

MR DE DOMENICO: Thank you, Mr Speaker, for your deliberation. I suggest that Mr Berry was suggesting that the $700,000 job creation scheme was not real.

MR SPEAKER: He was asking questions.

MR DE DOMENICO: He asked questions about it, so I will tell him. It is a fantastic scheme. I compared it to a scheme that the former Labor Party brought in. I compared it, Mr Moore, to a former scheme that the other government brought in. Only half of that scheme went to staff. I say that, Mr Moore, because he may go on record as stating his views on a similar proposal put forward by the Follett Government just before the last election which allocated some $465,000 to a graffiti removal and litter picking program. Do you remember that one, Mr Berry, that one that you brought in? It was off-budget. It was very secretive. It was left up to this Government to pay for it, by the way.

Ms McRae: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order. Would you like to rule on relevance? I do not see what something that happened before the election has to do with Mr Kaine's question. If it is indeed part of Mr Kaine's question, perhaps you would like Mr Kaine to ask the question again so that we can find out whether he was asking about things that happened before the election.

Mr Kaine: I will tell you. On that point of order, Mr Speaker: I asked whether it was not Mr Whitecross who was guilty of the smoke and mirrors, and I think the Minister is demonstrating that that is in fact the case.

MR DE DOMENICO: Mr Berry was wrong.

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, that has to be out of order. We have had ironical expressions, hypothetical matters and imputations - the whole lot of it. He should be ruled out of order.

MR SPEAKER: The relevance question I will uphold, Ms McRae. I am sure that Mr - - -

MR DE DOMENICO: In answer to Mr Kaine's question, I point out that Mr Berry was wrong yesterday. Ms Follett was also wrong in suggesting that the Government's proposal to increase business migration was also flawed. I am not quoting from my own press release. Today the Ethnic Communities Council said:

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