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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 11 Hansard (26 September) . . Page.. 3459 ..

MRS CARNELL (continuing):

I think that is a good outcome for the people of the ACT. We do it without moving into significant expenditure reduction, without shedding significant numbers of jobs, as Victoria did and as those opposite seem to want us to do. I think this is a good outcome for the ACT. Yet, as Dr Chessell said, it comes with danger. Moving into a situation of a countercyclical budget is always dangerous, but we are not going to sit on our hands and let this economy continue to slide.

MR KAINE: Mr Speaker, through you, I direct a question to the Minister for Urban Services, Mr De Domenico. Minister, yesterday there was a certain amount of rubbishing and a number of accusations by the Opposition in relation to elements of the Government's Jobs for Canberra initiative.

Mr Berry: I think we exposed it as a fraud. I think that would be the proper way to put it.

MR KAINE: If I were you, Mr Berry, I would keep quiet. In particular, Mr Berry suggested that the majority of the $700,000 allocated to the graffiti clean-up program would be used for purposes other than employing young people and Ms Follett from the backbench scoffed at the projected 25 per cent increase in business migration to the Territory in 1996-97.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I raise a point of order. Yesterday Mr De Domenico took on notice precisely the details which are called for in this question. I wish he would answer it.

MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order.

Mr Berry: It has been taken on notice.

MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order. I have not heard Mr Kaine's question yet.

MR KAINE: To refresh the Minister's memory on the substance of my question, in particular Mr Berry suggested yesterday that the majority of the $700,000 allocated to the graffiti clean-up program would be used for purposes other than employing young people and Ms Follett from the backbench scoffed at the projected 25 per cent increase in business migration to the Territory in 1996-97. Minister, is there any substance to what the Opposition was saying yesterday? Is the Jobs for Canberra program merely smoke and mirrors, as Mr Whitecross continues to insist, or does this budget contain real initiatives that will lead to real job growth, and is it in fact what the Leader of the Opposition is saying that is nothing but smoke and mirrors?

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