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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 11 Hansard (25 September) . . Page.. 3351 ..

MR SPEAKER: You have run out of time, but if you seek leave - - -

Ms McRae: Thank you; no.

MR SPEAKER: Seek leave. We will grant it.

Ms McRae: I do not want your leave, thank you.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Does somebody wish to continue the debate?

Ms McRae: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: I do not see how I can have run out of time when you have ruled me out of order. I had only just started to speak.

MR SPEAKER: If you wish - - -

Ms McRae: No; I do not want to seek leave.

MR SPEAKER: I did not rule you out; the clock did.

Ms McRae: I want my appropriate rights, Mr Speaker. On a point of order: How can my time run out when I was ruled out of order?

Mr Moore: Because a point of order was taken. You know the process, Roberta.

Ms McRae: I have asked the Speaker for a ruling.

MR SPEAKER: If you wish to speak, seek leave.

Ms McRae: No; I do not wish to seek leave.

Mr Humphries: On the point of order, Mr Speaker: It has always been the case that a member's speaking time is cut into by points of order and procedural motions. Perhaps it is unfortunate, but it has always been the case, as those opposite would know, because they have often used points of order to cut into a member's speaking time.

MR SPEAKER: Ms McRae, if you wish to speak I am sure the Assembly will give you leave to speak, but your time has run out. As Mr Humphries explained, we do not stop the clock on points of order. Mr Humphries, I understand that your amendment is, in fact, first in terms of this motion.

Mr Humphries: I do not think it is, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: No; you are adding to it, are you not, at the end of the motion?

Mr Humphries: We both are - well, not at the end of the motion.

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