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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 10 Hansard (5 September) . . Page.. 3165 ..

MR SPEAKER (continuing):

Mr Berry has taken offence at the implication.

Ms Follett: So he ought to.

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment. Hear me out. Also, we have a small problem in relation to the previous Health Minister, who is now, as we know, Master of the Supreme Court. I wonder whether you would mind withdrawing the word "fibs".

Mrs Carnell: I withdraw it.

Mr Humphries: Before Mrs Carnell rises, I would have to say that what Mrs Carnell was clearly saying was that either one or the other was not telling the truth. With respect, I think it was fairly clear from what Mrs Carnell's remarks were overall as to who it was she believed was not telling the truth. I have to suggest, Mr Speaker, that, therefore, because she was not saying that either of them was telling the truth, she was not defaming Mr Connolly. If anything, she was making a reference with regard to Mr Berry which might have to be withdrawn.

Mrs Carnell: I am happy to withdraw any implication that Mr Connolly was not telling the truth.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I ask you to call on her to withdraw the accusation that I was lying as well.

Mrs Carnell: Somebody has to be. There are two bits of paper.

Ms McRae: Then, put a motion, as you should. Mr Speaker, there is a very clear course of action if one wants to put a motion about any one of us who may have misled, and that is what Mrs Carnell should do. There is no room within the standing orders to impute that anyone lies. If that is the case, put a motion.

MR SPEAKER: Chief Minister, where are we?

Mrs Carnell: Mr Speaker, I have two pieces of paper that are absolutely at odds with each other.

Mr Berry: I ask you to order Mrs Carnell to withdraw the imputation.

Mrs Carnell: I did.

Mr Berry: No; you did not.

MR SPEAKER: Against you, Mr Berry?

Mrs Carnell: Against you, you mean?

Mr Berry: Yes.

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