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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 9 Hansard (28 August) . . Page.. 2704 ..

MR BERRY: I take this very personally.

MR SPEAKER: Continue.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, those matters that I take personally I like to deal with with some gusto.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, but you were not dealing with them; you were attacking Mrs Carnell.

MR BERRY: Mrs Carnell accused me of several budget blow-outs. Mrs Carnell has taken us back to the days when we started to fix the health system, with her efforts - - -

Mrs Carnell: I take a point of order.

Mr Humphries: I rise on a point of order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Order!

MR BERRY: I read, Mr Speaker, from the Canberra Times - - -

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. I would ask Mr Berry to observe the usual courtesy and sit down.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, you are making a personal explanation. I think I can anticipate the point of order.

Mr Humphries: Indeed. Mr Speaker, it seems to me to go one step further. Mr Berry is intending to breach the standing orders over this question. Come hell or high water, he is going to get in some comments which are not permitted under standing order 46. I would ask you to warn him that if he does so, having been warned, he will be named.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, I would caution you. You are making a personal explanation.

MR BERRY: Indeed I am. I have been accused of frightening mothers and babies, Mr Speaker. That accusation is wrong. Mr Speaker, Mrs Carnell yesterday placed figures before this Assembly which clearly misled this Assembly. Mr Speaker, Mrs Carnell - - -

Mrs Carnell: This is not a personal explanation, Mr Speaker.

MR BERRY: It is.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, you must come quickly to your personal explanation, otherwise you will have to resume your seat.

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