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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 7 Hansard (19 June) . . Page.. 1849 ..

MR WHITECROSS (continuing):

and that it was serious enough to be briefing the media that she would be moving a censure motion today, she should have got her department organised to brief everybody. She had Dr Hughes on the radio this morning telling his version of the story. Yet Mrs Carnell does not have the leadership to get her department to actually brief members of the Assembly. It is a disgrace, and Mrs Carnell should not be abusing the processes of the house in this way.

MRS CARNELL (Chief Minister and Minister for Health and Community Care): Mr Speaker, I gave no indication on any media outlet that we were going to move a censure motion this morning.

Ms McRae: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: Why is Mrs Carnell speaking to this motion again?

MR SPEAKER: It is a good question. Everybody seems to have got into the act at the moment.

Ms McRae: Thank you, Mr Speaker. Let us sort this out.

Mrs Carnell: I seek leave to speak, to answer the questions.

Ms McRae: No, you cannot. The Speaker has been asked to rule on a point of order. I would like to hear Mr Speaker's ruling.

MR SPEAKER: I take your point of order.

Mr Kaine: Mr Speaker, I seek leave to speak on this matter.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I am the person who sought and, as I understood it, was granted leave to move that standing orders be suspended in order that Mrs Carnell could move her censure motion. My understanding was that standing orders had been suspended.

MR SPEAKER: No, they have not, because I have not put the question yet. We are still debating it.

Mr Berry: I have not moved the motion yet.

Mr Kaine: I seek leave, Mr Speaker, to speak on this matter.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Kaine is now following the correct procedure by seeking leave to speak on the matter.

Mr Kaine: On the assumption that if Mr - - -

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, on a point of order - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order!

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