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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1996 Week 5 Hansard (15 May) . . Page.. 1305 ..


MR BERRY: I withdraw it.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you.

Mrs Carnell: Mr Speaker, you may have solved the problem; but, referring to a ruling of yours, Mr Berry made a comment which I suggest would be regarded as grossly disruptive in this place and would be actually a basis for being evicted.

MR BERRY: I withdraw it, whatever it was.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, did you make any reference against my ruling?

MR BERRY: I accept your rulings. I always do, Mr Speaker - sometimes through gritted teeth, but I do accept them. I do not have to agree with them, Mr Speaker, but I accept them.

MR SPEAKER: That is perfectly in order.

MR BERRY: I withdraw any imputation. Mr Speaker, the Goebbels-speak that comes from the mouths of those people who support the policies of the H.R. Nicholls Society is more than most people can bear, but for it to be echoed in this place is unforgivable. The people of the ACT did not elect a majority of people in this place to take the approach that you are taking in relation to industrial relations for the ACT. Michael Moore, the Greens, Paul Osborne and the Labor Party were not elected on the basis of what they would do to unions. If you few people think that you will get away with riding roughshod over trade unions and workers in the ACT, you have another think coming. Mr De Domenico talks about a more rational system of industrial relations. Read "rational" as "weaker workers' position". That is what Mr De Domenico means.

I refer again to an article which I referred to in question time today. Mr Stephen S. Roach from Morgan Stanley has admitted that he was wrong on the - - -

Mr De Domenico: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: I suggest that under standing order 58 members shall not digress from the subject under question. What Mr Morgan Stanley, or whatever his name is, from the United States said in the Canberra Times today or yesterday, I respectfully suggest, has nothing to do with the Labour Ministers conference held in Melbourne in March.

MR SPEAKER: I uphold that point of order.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, I wish you would let me read what Morgan Stanley said first, before you make the ruling. It is in relation to this very matter, Mr Speaker.

Mr De Domenico: What - in relation to the Labour Ministers conference?


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