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goes on to recommend almost exactly the same things that the consultants did for Mr Humphries. You have to find that fairly interesting. You also have to find it fairly interesting that Richard Glenn and Associates felt it necessary to preamble their report with the view that the Calvary Hospital site is the appropriate site; but, if Mr Berry feels that it has to be on Acton, well, so be it. May I have a short extension, please?
Mr Berry: Oh, I do not know.
Mr Lamont: We do not do it on MPIs.
MRS CARNELL: Okay. No, it is all right. It is an MPI.
Mr Berry: No, it is all right.
MR DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Is an extension being sought?
MRS CARNELL: No, it is all right. It is okay.
MR LAMONT (4.46): I can understand why Mrs Carnell would not want to continue to debate this issue. We were going to extend some largess and allow her to do so. I regarded that as a somewhat incredible speech by Mrs Carnell this afternoon. Some of the comments that have been coming out of the Liberals about the question of the hospice leave me somewhat bemused. I suppose you could expect nothing else, considering the way in which they have made money out of this issue.
Consider the intellectual rigour of Mr Stevenson in conducting his Dennis polls. Mr Stevenson picks up the phone, I presume here in his office, and quite legitimately contacts constituents within the ACT. He puts forward a question, or a series of questions, and gets their response. On that basis Mr Stevenson, quite rightfully in his view, comes to a relative position. That, to me, smacks of intellectual rigour in adopting an appropriate methodology as far as Mr Stevenson is concerned. But what do we have with the Liberals, Mr Deputy Speaker? No, that is not good enough, because they might not get the right answer if they phone up constituents at random in the ACT and talk about this question. What they do instead is hire a 0055 number, and lo and behold - - -
Mr De Domenico: I take a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. I want to let you know that Mr Lamont made an accusation before about the Liberal Party making some money out of this issue. He now goes on to quote about - - -
Mr Berry: Yes, that is not you.
Mr De Domenico: Just wait a minute and listen. You might learn something, know-all. He said that the Liberal Party had a 0055 number on the hospice issue. Mr Lamont is wrong, and I ask him to withdraw that allegation of the Liberal Party making any money.
MR LAMONT: What was the issue about then? Why did you have the 0055 number?
Mrs Carnell: It was the abortion clinic.
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