Page 5501 - Week 17 - Wednesday, 4 December 1991

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MR COLLAERY: To adjust Mr Moore's memory, I will produce an extract from Hansard where a similar claim is made by the Rally and not refuted in any way by Mr Moore. It is short-term memory loss. As for the detailed terms of the reference, I do not know; but the idea of the committee, the original draft of the motion in this house, was prepared, as Mr Moore knows, up in the Rally room.

We are committed to the reforms. I regret that it took so many years - two, I think - to get some fairly basic reforms. Mr Moore is hardly the quick reformer he is trying to pass off today. This is an unfortunate stage of the debate. If Mr Moore wants this to go to a vote, so be it. He is leading himself into a dry gully on this one. What he should do is adjourn it. He should not have pressed the issue to get us to get it up again today for him unless we can fix up those issues.

Mr Moore: You did not mention that to me. You at no stage said that.

MR COLLAERY: Mr Moore has known the Rally's position since 25 November. If he wants our support on a Bill, he needs to draw it. We are doing our own work.

MR MOORE (12.01): I would like to clarify one small issue where Mr Collaery is very close to misleading this house. The detailed terms of reference - - -

Mr Collaery: I raise a point of order, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. That is an inference - "close to misleading this house". He is sailing too close to the wind with that.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Yes, I think you are right. Mr Moore, please withdraw.

MR MOORE: I withdraw. I point out that the detailed terms of reference for the Committee on HIV, Illegal Drugs and Prostitution in their initial form were drawn up by one Peter Wise, who was working in my office at the time.

Mr Collaery: Our office.

MR MOORE: He was working in my own personal office at that time. Later on he worked for you, and it was prior to the time that Jeannine Lee came to work for me. That is when they were drawn up, in very close consultation with me. All of us were going through a learning process at that time, but it turned out that they were very good terms of reference.

I point out one other thing. An arrangement was made and a particular time and date set for Mr Collaery to come and talk to me about the legislation over a week ago. Mr Collaery simply did not turn up - with no apology, no notification or anything. Working with the Rally is just impossible.


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