Page 4887 - Week 16 - Thursday, 29 November 1990
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MR SPEAKER: Just a moment; I did not quite hear what Mrs Grassby said.
Ms Follett: Dr Kinloch was not here when the remark was made; he was not in this chamber. He is not here now, and I, for one, take the greatest exception to a member of my party being asked to withdraw and apologise in those circumstances. They have shown contempt - grave contempt - for this house by wandering off while we were still sitting and you have - - -
Mr Jensen: It is the adjournment debate.
Ms Follett: Ministers were absent long before the adjournment debate. They were absent to go interstate, and well you know it. I think it is totally inappropriate that Mrs Grassby should be asked to withdraw a remark that was made in a humorous speech, at which nobody present in the chamber took offence, including yourself. It is quite wrong that a display of ill-temper, ill-manners and outright crudity by Dr Kinloch should change that situation.
MR SPEAKER: Under the circumstances, where both sides have presented a problem to do with performance in the house, I will go back on my request to Mrs Grassby to withdraw the comment. I do believe that it was made in a frivolous manner. Sitting here, I was prepared to take action if I thought offensive statements had been made against the Government.
Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I move that my motion be put.
MR SPEAKER: Just a moment, Mr Moore. I call Mr Collaery.
Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I move that my motion be put. I move the gag - - -
Mr Collaery: I was on my feet as the next speaker to talk.
Mr Moore: I can move the gag at any time, Mr Speaker.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Collaery was on his feet. I asked him to sit until I had made that statement.
Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, I believe that, in fact, I was on my feet when I put the motion.
MR SPEAKER: Yes; but I do not know what he is going to say until he is allowed to speak, Mr Moore.
Mr Connolly: Mr Moore was actually on his feet when Dr Kinloch stormed in and created all this kerfuffle. Mr Moore then sat and we got into a rather long debate.
MR SPEAKER: Just a moment, Mr Collaery. I must admit that my attention had been drawn from the fact that Mr Moore was on his feet first.
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