Page 4464 - Week 15 - Thursday, 22 November 1990
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MR JENSEN (11.18): Mr Speaker, I rise to comment briefly on a couple of statements made by Mr Berry in relation to this matter. During his comments about performance indicators in relation to recidivism in the ACT, I took the opportunity to look at last year's budget paper No. 5 in relation to the particular area. I found that after some months in government the previous Government - now the Opposition, where it deserves to stay for some time - had no performance indicators on this matter. I refer to page 287 of Program Information and Estimates 1989-90 which is budget paper No. 5. Under "Key Performance Indicators" it states:
All areas within the program are in the process of preparing statements describing functions, defining objectives and listing indicators against which performance is to be assessed. These statements will be finalised this financial year.
Quite clearly, Mr Speaker, once the role of the Minister in that area was taken over by my colleague Mr Collaery, the department got on with the job. If one refers to pages 224 and 225 of budget paper No. 5 for this financial year, Program Information and Estimates 1990-91, one will see that a list of key performance indicators has been developed. I suggest that it is rather inappropriate for Mr Berry to seek to score cheap political points on this matter when once again there is a clear indication that, on the part of the Government, that matter is well in hand. I suggest that there will be further development of those key performance indicators, as one would expect, as time goes on.
Mr Berry: I got them all going.
MR STEFANIAK (11.20): Yes, you have, Mr Berry. I reiterate and support the comments made by my colleague Mr Jensen. Mr Berry could have properly spoken about a lot of areas, but he again went for the cheap political shots at Mr Collaery, about the New South Wales gaols.
New South Wales gaols have always been a problem, Mr Berry. I think one of your previous colleagues, a Labor Minister there, Rex Jackson, found out all about it because he ended up in one. There were problems there in the 1970s under Neville Wran and Askin, and it goes back to the time of the Rum Corps, Mr Berry. It is ridiculous to say that I support inhumane practices. I do not support inhumane practices anywhere, Mr Berry. Gaols are not meant to be holiday camps, but if there is anything inhumane going on in a gaol I certainly would not support it. I took a bit of offence at that, too.
Mr Connolly: What are your views on Mr Yabsley, Bill?
Mr Berry: Tell us your views on Mr Yabsley and how he is handling it.
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