Page 4463 - Week 15 - Thursday, 22 November 1990
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There has been some criticism about the Minister's handling of the arrangements with the New South Wales Government, which is under siege because of its handling of prisons. It is a Liberal government which is under siege, and rightly so, because the Minister has completely mishandled the prisons in New South Wales. But his partner in this issue is Mr Collaery, who has been very quiet on that issue and who has allowed those inhumane activities to go without strong public criticism. I think it is a requirement in this environment that the Minister strongly criticise the New South Wales Government, irrespective of his links with the Liberal Party.
Mr Stefaniak: Rubbish!
MR BERRY: I heard Mr Stefaniak say, "Rubbish!". He has long been a supporter of inhumane practices. I suspect that he supports what has been going on in the New South Wales system.
Mr Humphries: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: I think the reference to Mr Stefaniak's support of inhumane practices cannot be borne out by any evidence, and I think Mr Berry should withdraw it.
MR BERRY: I withdraw that.
MR SPEAKER: You withdraw that. Thank you, Mr Berry.
MR BERRY: I withdraw that. Mr Stefaniak seems to support, by his interjections, the inhumane practices which are going on in the New South Wales gaols.
MR SPEAKER: Order! That is a qualified withdrawal. Please withdraw the statement.
MR BERRY: I withdraw that. Mr Stefaniak supports the Liberal Minister's handling of the New South Wales gaols.
Mr Stefaniak: I do not know that I necessarily said anything about that one.
MR BERRY: Get up and say that you do not. That would make a good press release, too. I would prefer it if you got up and said that you do not support it.
MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, please!
MR BERRY: I will finish on that note, Mr Speaker, but I may well respond further, later.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Members, just before we proceed, on behalf of all members, I would like to welcome to our chamber members of the Woden TAFE English as a second language course.
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