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Then she goes on:

Buildings and playgrounds are designed imaginatively and are planned for young children on the basis of appropriate and recognised standard.

That includes, for example, those little toilets that you see in preschools. One of the disadvantages of attempting to move preschool children into a primary school is that if you do not provide for them the sort of toilet facilities they are used to then the teachers are going to spend a great deal of their time mopping up the urine from around the toilet. Preschoolers - and I have one myself - are apt to be distracted while they could be concentrating on other things. I have seen myself that if I talk to my young son he then turns around while he is talking and forgets that he was actually pointing his penis down into the toilet.

Mr Wood: Do you mind?

MR MOORE: Not at all. I hope you do not object to the word "penis"; it is a normal word.

Mr Humphries: This conversation is a bit lurid.

MR MOORE: One of the things that is most important is toilet facilities - and we need to talk about these things, Mr Humphries, because they are very expensive. The toilet facilities for preschools are most important. The next point that Mrs Murray raised was this:

Pre-schools are staffed by qualified pre-school teachers and by suitably qualified or experienced pre-school assistants.

Mr Humphries: Is this relevant to anything we are talking about?

MR MOORE: It is certainly relevant because there Mrs Murray set out the importance of the preschool and the importance of the planning of the preschool in terms of its own location, in terms of - - -

Mr Humphries: No, she does not say that.

MR MOORE: Mr Humphries interjects that she does not say that. I am going to take the time to read a little piece again:

Building and playgrounds are designed imaginatively and are planned for young children on the basis of appropriate and recognised standards.

So she certainly does say that. Mrs Murray goes on to talk about integration:


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