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does not mean we all agree. We are doing what we can do as responsibly as we can do it. We are not going to be put down by falsely emotional claims. I recognise educational realities, I believe, as well as anyone in this chamber - all 17 of us - because I have worked with them all my life and I will do my very best to ensure the best possible outcomes.
Mr Moore: On a point of order, Mr Acting Speaker; the tradition in the house is to go from one side to the other. This has been pointed out just recently on a number of occasions by Mr Humphries.
MR ACTING SPEAKER: I suppose in that case, Mr Moore, I accept your point of order.
MR MOORE (4.13): Mr Acting Speaker, I thought that I would start with a little dissertation on consultation. The sort of consultation that Dr Kinloch is talking about is the same consultation that says, "We are going to put a casino in". Do not leave, Dr Kinloch, stay here for a minute or two, just for another five seconds.
MR ACTING SPEAKER: Order, Mr Moore. If Dr Kinloch wants to leave, he can. Address your remarks to the Chair.
Mr Jensen: On a point of order, Mr Acting Speaker; might I suggest that Mr Moore direct his queries through the Chair and not across the chamber, in accordance with normal debating practice.
MR ACTING SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Jensen; I have just spoken to Mr Moore about it.
MR MOORE: I hope that Dr Kinloch has the good grace to read this later in Hansard. The process of consultation has been like deciding for his benefit that we are going to have a casino. The real question you now have to decide, Dr Kinloch, is where you are going to put it. Within Civic, of course, or within the Parliamentary Triangle, whichever. So, Dr Kinloch, you can now say what you like and you can say where you would like to put it but you cannot say no casino. This is the sort of consultation process that this Government has inflicted on the people of the ACT. "We are going to close schools. Now, you tell us about whether you think your school should be closed or not" - as if you expected any other answers than what they gave. "Then we will decide which schools will close and we will not be challenged on that at all". The whole thing is just a process that has been put together by charlatans because it is not a consultation process.
The most upsetting thing about it all for Dr Kinloch, for Mr Jensen, for Mr Collaery, is, if I can take them back to a time on Brockman Street when we stood around - - -
Mr Jensen: You were not there when the trees came down, Michael. Where were you when the trees came down?
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