Page 997 - Week 04 - Wednesday, 28 March 1990
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MR COLLAERY: Mr Speaker, I table the document Birth Centre Pros and Cons - An ACT for Birth Perspective. It speaks for itself and contradicts exactly what Mr Moore has said.
MR SPEAKER: The document is tabled, thank you.
MR BERRY (11.45): I must say that Mr Collaery just demonstrated his deep misunderstanding of the issues concerning birthing centres. He talked about birthing centres needing to be ten minutes away from an obstetrics area.
Mr Collaery: I did not say that.
Mr Jensen: Homebirths.
MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Jensen.
Mr Jensen: I am sorry, Mr Speaker.
MR BERRY: Of course, there are other arguments beside that and Mr Collaery seeks, as he does on most occasions, to put only one side of the argument, in a patronising way. On this occasion he has failed to convince anyone because it is true that the Residents Rally is all over the place on the delivery of health services, and I must say that this is just another example of that.
I turn now to what Mr Humphries said. The first issue that Mr Humphries raised which was of concern was his attempt to draw a demarcation line between the Labor Party and members of the medical profession. The Labor Party, Mr Humphries, for your information, is concerned that the provision of services does not focus on the carers but on the people who need the services. There is an argument that in many cases the focus of health services is on the carers and that, in some cases, could include members of the medical profession. I think I have heard you yourself say that there is concern about that and it needs to be addressed carefully. The Labor Party would go along with that notion. It is wrong to say that Labor Party is anti-doctor, but we are not puppets of the doctors either. Now, Mr Speaker - - -
MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, just before you proceed, I would like to clarify the point. Are you speaking to close the debate, or are you speaking to the amendment?
MR BERRY: I am speaking to the amendment first and then I intend to close the debate if that is - - -
MR SPEAKER: Within the same time scale.
MR BERRY: I think I can speak to the amendment and then have another 10 minutes.
MR SPEAKER: Yes, provided we are aware of that.
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