Page 1024 - Week 04 - Wednesday, 28 March 1990
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MR MOORE (3.14), in reply: Mr Speaker, I have made a genuine attempt to take these matters out of the area of black and white. I have said, "Okay, he has been suspended for a while", but I have not tried to rescind the fact that should it happen again the suspension will be for three days, because that is in the standing orders. I have not done any of that. The sorts of conditions that Mr Collaery wants to put on acceptance of my motion indicate that this is clearly a manoeuvre because the Government is not prepared to be forgiving and accept - - -
Mr Kaine: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. I do not know the number of the standing order concerned, but I just want to know whether Mr Moore is closing the debate.
MR SPEAKER: Yes, he is.
Mr Kaine: Well, he takes what he gets, in that case.
MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Kaine! I called the member. No-one else stood.
MR MOORE: I waited for everybody to stand, Mr Speaker.
MR SPEAKER: You certainly did. There was a pause.
MR MOORE: If the Chief Minister wants to speak, I would be delighted to take my seat again and allow him to speak - with the indulgence of the Leader of the Assembly.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Is that the wish of the Assembly?
Mr Collaery: Mr Speaker, Mr Moore stood up and he has started his response. I recall that in another circumstance the debate was not allowed to continue and be extended to the other members in this house.
MR SPEAKER: Order! Thank you for your observation. It is obviously not the wish of the house. Please proceed, Mr Moore.
MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, may I have it clearly identified in Hansard that Mr Collaery was not prepared to give leave for the Chief Minister to say a word. Sometimes these things are obvious, but are not written, which is why I want it to be stated.
Mr Speaker, this has been a genuine attempt to say, "Okay, things got a little bit out of hand". A number of us were at fault, and I have included myself, the Chief Minister and Mr Collaery in that - quite happily. We are saying to the Government and to each member - and Dr Kinloch should remember that he mentioned the other day that he had individual responsibilities - that it is appropriate for you to vote on this matter as you think, individually. Judges always have recourse to the full weight of the law and the full penalty, but my understanding is that they
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