Page 4161 - Week 12 - Tuesday, 22 October 2019
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MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Ms Le Couteur, you cannot move your amendment No 1 because it is the same as Mr Steel’s, which we have already passed.
MS LE COUTEUR: I move amendment No 2 circulated in my name [see schedule 2 at page 4173]. This is a technical amendment to commencement dates, to delay the commencement of section 33B. I think we are in a bit of a mess. My understanding as of this morning was that the government was going to agree to my proposals on the hoarding advisory council. Mr Steel’s amendment is inserting the words “not approve a hoarding code of practice within six months”. My understanding is that the government has decided not to agree to my amendments with respect to the hoarding advisory council, and thus amendment No 1 of Mr Steel is not actually what he wants. If he does want to do the hoarding advisory council, that is absolutely great. My amendment No 2 does not make sense unless you want to agree to the hoarding advisory council. I move it on that basis, but I am unsure that we know exactly what we are doing. What we were doing three hours ago is not what we are doing now.
MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: For the guidance of members, if I might interpose, this amendment is essentially conditional on some other amendments which may or may not pass—is that right, Ms Le Couteur?
MS LE COUTEUR: It is not so much essential as irrelevant. It is a technical amendment to commencement dates, but if we do not have any hoarding advisory council to give us advice, we do not need it.
MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Since it has been moved, we will proceed. The question is that Ms Le Couteur’s amendment No 2 be agreed to.
MR STEEL (Murrumbidgee—Minister for City Services, Minister for Multicultural Affairs, Minister for Recycling and Waste Reduction, Minister for Roads and Active Travel and Minister for Transport) (4.37): We do not support this amendment, which—I will explain later—would allow for the definition of a code advisory council to be included in the act. I will provide some further details about that when we get to the substantive section, but I think we can continue the debate and just go through it clause by clause, as per the running sheet. We will still get to a position that, from a technical point of view, we need to get to.
MS LE COUTEUR (Murrumbidgee) (4.38): This is very irregular, because we are trying to work it out on the floor. I had been assuming that, in the interests of not boring everybody, I would do one amendment which related to hoarding and then another relating to fines, knowing that they would both be defeated. It sounds as though Mr Steel wishes to have a debate about the hoarding advisory council at some other point. I want to move a division on the hoarding advisory council. I was going to do it now, but if there is a better place—
Mr Steel: Do it now.
MS LE COUTEUR: I seek a vote on my amendment No 2.
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