Page 5970 - Week 14 - Wednesday, 8 December 2010
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So Katy Gallagher wants us to believe her now. But she was caught, quite clearly, not telling the truth back then. And then she started talking about this—
Mr Stanhope: I raise a point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ms Le Couteur): Mr Stanhope.
Mr Seselja: Stop the clocks, please.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Yes, please stop the clock.
Mr Stanhope: Madam Assistant Speaker, it is clearly unparliamentary of Mr Hanson to make those claims of untruthfulness. It is clearly unparliamentary and he should be asked to withdraw.
Mr Seselja: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker, points about people saying things outside of the chamber which are not true are not unparliamentary; it is common practice in this place on all sides and I would ask you to reflect on that in your ruling. In the past, comments around people misleading the Assembly need to be part of a substantive motion. I do not believe that is what Mr Hanson was actually saying.
Mr Hargreaves: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker, The question before you, I believe, is whether or not the comments from Mr Hanson are an imputation against the member. That is really what it comes down to.
MR HANSON: On the point of order, Madam Assistant Speaker—
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Yes, but this is the last one.
MR HANSON: I stand by my comments because it is quite clear that the statements that were made were not true. And I do not think there is a point of order.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Okay.
MR HANSON: I stand by it—
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Okay.
MR HANSON: If it requires a substantive motion, I will go there.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Mr Hanson, I think it would help the proceedings if you would withdraw those remarks. I am not clear exactly what you said, so I will review the Hansard afterwards. I clearly heard “untrue” and “Ms Gallagher” but exactly what I am not—
MR HANSON: Madam Assistant Speaker, I will not be withdrawing my comments. What I said—I will have to paraphrase it—is that when the—
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