Page 5845 - Week 14 - Tuesday, 7 December 2010

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MR SPEAKER: Order! Stop the clocks, thank you. The next person who interjects on Ms Bresnan will get a warning. Ms Bresnan, you have the floor.

MS BRESNAN: There is no debate to have about this. As I have said, it has been noted in annual reports; it has been noted in estimates. It is noted in the functional brief on the AMC. What does Mr Hanson not understand? As I said, if he does not understand his own portfolio it is not for us to come into the chamber here so that he can facilitate some flimsy argument that he wants to put forward.

Mr Coe: On a point of order, Mr Speaker, you upheld a point of order earlier calling on Mr Hanson to speak to the suspension of standing orders. I ask that the same discussion be applied for Ms Bresnan when she is approaching this—rather than discussing the substantive issue.

MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order. I believe that Ms Bresnan is putting a point as to why she does not think we should have a debate. But I remind you of the earlier ruling, Ms Bresnan.

MS BRESNAN: Thank you, Mr Speaker. On that point, Mr Hanson did actually get up and talk about a variety of reasons around the numbers that have been put forward today in question time.

We will not be supporting the suspension of standing orders. There is no argument here. It is not a story. We have had a number of arguments about the capacity. It has been discussed in a number of forums. Again, if Mr Hanson does not understand his own portfolio, that is his problem, not ours.

MR SESELJA (Molonglo—Leader of the Opposition) (3.01): You have got to ask why Mr Corbell does not want to have this debate. We heard in question time—

Mr Corbell: Because there is nothing to debate.

MR SESELJA: He does not like it. We heard it in question time. That is why he is hiding from this debate. That is why he, the Labor Party and the Greens are combining to hide from this debate. His argument does not stack up. He has been caught out on a number of fronts. He has been caught out on competence, and he has been caught out on honesty. That is what we are talking about. That is why the Labor Party do not want to debate this. That is why the Greens do not want to debate it. That is why he is hiding behind it.

Mr Hargreaves: On a point of order, Mr Speaker, this is prosecuting the argument, not talking about suspension.

MR SESELJA: No, it is not.

Mr Hargreaves: He is not talking about why we should suspend standing orders. He is prosecuting the argument.


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