Page 4362 - Week 10 - Wednesday, 22 September 2010
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am not proud of it one bit. And I can see it. It is like putting make-up on a pig. It is still a pig. And this is rednecking and scaremongering for political purposes.
Mr Hanson: Madam Assistant Speaker, I rise on a point of order
MR HARGREAVES: I apologise to the pig, before he says anything.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER (Ms Le Couteur): Mr Hanson?
Mr Hanson: I will just ask you to rule on the use of unparliamentary language. He has called me a redneck about four or five times; he has now called me a pig. I wonder if you would ask the minister—
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: Mr Hanson, I do not think that Mr Hargreaves specifically referred to you as a pig—
Mr Seselja: It was not lost on any of us.
MADAM ASSISTANT SPEAKER: or anyone in particular, so I do not think that your point is relevant, because he was not in fact referring to any person or personages.
Mr Hanson: I would ask if you could review the Hansard and maybe make a ruling on that tomorrow, Madam Assistant Speaker, because my interpretation was that that is what he was, if not directly saying, certainly inferring.
MR HARGREAVES: Madam Assistant Speaker, I would like to talk to that. I will clarify that. My comments were not directed at Mr Hanson personally. They were directed to the process and the policy of this particular approach. As I indicated before, I did it myself, and I am not proud of it, and I can see it popping up in the children opposite. I can see it coming up. The bad news is that this is being used for political expediency, because it is good stuff out there. It is the stuff that made John Laws an absolute billionaire.
Mr Doszpot: Where did the pigs come in? When do pigs come in?
MR HARGREAVES: And Mr Doszpot ought to be quiet, because so far Mr Doszpot has my respect and he is losing it at a rapid rate of knots. I can only assume from this approach that Mr Hanson has articulated today that he is an opponent of the harm minimisation approach to drug addiction. I can only assume that. The harm minimisation process is all about keeping people alive while ever you try to sort their problem out. Now what part of keeping somebody alive do they not agree with? There is only one alternative. You either support a trial and a community approach to having clean needles available, if you cannot stop the other, while you are addressing the other, or you do not. If you do not, that means you are condemning people to a miserable death. If you do, you recognise that the introduction of drugs and other substances into the prison is something that we fight.
The Alexander Maconochie Centre has a pretty good record for stopping it. That was not mentioned by Mr Hanson at all. He does not recognise that the incidence of drugs
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