Page 2141 - Week 06 - Thursday, 7 May 2009
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MR HARGREAVES: Thanks very much, Mr Speaker. I will not talk about the point of order; like their corrections policy, there is nothing to talk about there either.
Mrs Dunne: You want to be careful, John.
MR HARGREAVES: I do not need to be careful, and I do not need your advice either. Thank you, Mrs Dunne. I will talk to you through the Speaker. You can do me the same courtesy too.
Mr Coe: No, you will not. Look at what you are doing now.
MR HARGREAVES: And you can do me the same courtesy too.
Mr Coe: Through the Speaker, please. Through the Speaker.
MR HARGREAVES: You know, for an apprentice, you are pretty loud. Less than 200 days in this place does not make a politician. When you have got a couple of thousand days up, you can speak.
Mr Coe: I want to be just like you in 40 years time. I want to be just like you.
MR HARGREAVES: In the meantime, why don’t you just be quiet? You had your say; I heard you in silence. I ask you to give me the same courtesy.
Mr Coe: I want to be just like you, John.
MR HARGREAVES: How about you just try it for once. It might be a really good, pleasant surprise.
Mr Coe: You are a model member.
MR SPEAKER: Order, members! Mr Hargreaves, let us continue on the substance of your speech.
MR HARGREAVES: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I want to just highlight a couple of things. Mr Hanson did not talk about corrections. That is fine. Ms Bresnan did. She voiced some concerns about through-care and after-care. Such plans do exist. I have indicated before, and I have indicated to the member, that such plans do exist. The list of MOUs which underpin all of those plans actually does exist. Indeed, the meeting on 14 May is intended to canvass the involvement of stakeholders in just that—the enhancement of those particular programs.
To suggest that the through-care and after-care programs do not exist is erroneous. It has been the case that they have existed for some time, but not for all prisoners. Most of the prisoners at one point in time were in New South Wales, and some still remain there; when it comes to some of our programs which require a critical mass for their production, we need that critical mass from New South Wales to effect them.
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