Page 3330 - Week 11 - Tuesday, 20 September 2005
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centres have a caretaker or cleaning person on staff. Certainly the Erindale shopping centre has one, and that guy does a great job. If they think there are not enough garbage bins around a shopping centre, they can take it up with the shopping centre management.
While we are on those sorts of private premises, I will address Mr Mulcahy’s beauty: that is an absolute ripper. Mr Mulcahy is encouraging people to litter outside the rear laneways of premises by asking, “Why don’t you let them put their kegs there?” The reason why they are being asked to remove the kegs is because they are not on their land; they are on unleased territory land. They are on a roadway, which is an access area. I am looking across at those opposite and I do not see any who might have ever driven up a back lane in Kingston in a heavy vehicle, but I have. I drove one of the paper recycling trucks—nine tonnes unloaded—up one of those alleyways and had to dodge the very kegs that he is talking about.
Mrs Burke: What’s the solution?
Mr Pratt: What’s the solution?
MR HARGREAVES: They yell to me, “What’s the solution?”
MR SPEAKER: The yell is out of order. You need not respond to that, just direct your attention to the matter before the chair.
MR HARGREAVES: I know. I make the point, though, that it is the problem of the business; they can sort it out for themselves. Do not ask me—do not ask this government—to condone putting kegs out on unleased territory land just because they are in a laneway when it is not necessarily safe to do so. Furthermore, these are empty kegs and they are litter. I applaud the inspectors for telling these people to make alternative arrangements. I have no problem with that. You hear from this mob over here, “What’s the solution? What’s the solution?” I am waiting for the “oh wise one” on the end, because they do not have a solution. They never have had a solution.
Mr Pratt: We have given it to you!
MR HARGREAVES: Mr Pratt is suggesting that we just let them go for it and have the kegs—as much as they like—out the back of these places. Good luck! I just hope that, one of these days when someone has a prang there, you will stand up and say you were partly to blame for it. Mr Pratt and Mr Mulcahy talked about graffiti.
Mr Pratt interjecting—
MR HARGREAVES: We all recognise that as an issue, but I have to say that we have a strategy, and we have legislation. I would love to hear, one of these days, what those opposite have by way of strategy—
Mr Pratt interjecting—
MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Pratt!
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