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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2003 Week 9 Hansard (28 August) . . Page.. 3331 ..


MR SPEAKER: Order! This is entering into debate about the bill.

MS TUCKER: No, it's not. I'm a crossbench member and I was not responsible for creating that disaster of a piece of law that was done with the other crossbench members and the government of the day-in fact the Attorney-General of the day, the chief law officer of the day. I am just clarifying it wasn't this crossbench-

MR SPEAKER: Ms Tucker, that's a point of debate you can take up when the debate comes back into the chamber.

Mr Stanhope: I'm never quite sure of these forms. I must say I understand the extent to which I may have misrepresented-

MR SPEAKER: Again, we're in the same position here. We're entering into a debate that has already been adjourned. The house has decided that this debate will resume on the next day of sitting. Unless the house decides otherwise, that's the way it's going to stay.

MS TUCKER: On the point of order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: There's no point of order. If you want to raise one, you should do so.

MS TUCKER: No, it wasn't a point of order, was it. It was about the standing order. It is definitely a personal explanation. I was misrepresented. Why aren't I allowed to do that?

MR SPEAKER: Ms Tucker, standing order 46 makes it very clear that you should not debate a matter.

MS TUCKER: I'm not debating a matter, I'm clarifying. All I'm doing is clarifying that it was not all crossbench members. That's all I'm asking to do.

Victims of crime legislation

Statement by minister

MR STANHOPE (Chief Minister, Attorney-General, Minister for Environment and Minister for Community Affairs): Mr Speaker, I seek leave to make a short statement.

Leave granted.

MR STANHOPE: I'd like to tell the Assembly that Ms Tucker makes a fair point. In my presentation speech, I did make a generic statement about members of the crossbench. In fact I meant Mr Rugendyke and Mr Osborne. I could have been that explicit. I have to say that it just never entered my mind that anybody would possibly have felt or thought that I was referring to Ms Tucker. I certainly was not, Ms Tucker, and I regret that I wasn't explicit. I was referring to Mr Rugendyke and Mr Osborne and certainly not Ms Tucker. I remember well and vividly her very stout defence of fairness and equity in relation to the matters under discussion.


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