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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2002 Week 12 Hansard (14 November) . . Page.. 3672 ..

MR HUMPHRIES (continuing):

I ask members to consider what is the value of this arrangement. It does not appear to make any sense-with great respect. I believe it would be much more sensible to do what we have done in almost every other case in the 13-year life of this Assembly. That is, on committees of three-or even five-members, generally there is one crossbench member.

MR HARGREAVES (4.15): Mr Speaker, I seek leave to move two amendments together to this motion, which I have been furiously scribbling out. They will be circulated as soon as they are photocopied.

Leave granted.

MR HARGREAVES: The first amendment I move to the motion is:

(1) Insert the words "Notwithstanding the provisions of Standing Order 221"before the words "That"first occurring.

MR SPEAKER: Is that available to members?

MR HARGREAVES: It is on the photocopier and will be available as soon as the photocopier is cleared. It is on its way around. The second amendment I move is as follows:

(2) Add "and that the membership of both Committees comprise one member nominated by the government, one member nominated by the Opposition, one member of the Australian Democrats and one independent member".

As I understand it, Ms Dundas is on both committees-that is why it is put in that way. In speaking to these amendments, one of the matters which concern me is that there seems to be an attempt by those opposite to tell the crossbench how they should dish out their workload, whereas it is up to them to do it.

Mr Stefaniak: Have they made that resolution?

Mr Smyth: Have they agreed?

MR HARGREAVES: I repeat this for the aged and the deaf: I do not propose-

Mrs Dunne: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: I seek your guidance on whether this amendment proposed by Mr Hargreaves is in order, in accordance with standing order 221.

MR SPEAKER: My reading of it right now is that it excludes the provisions of standing order 221. It says, "Notwithstanding the provisions of standing order 221".

Mrs Dunne: I see. We have that now.

MR HARGREAVES: I will repeat it for the aged and the deaf. That was the very first thing I said when I was on my feet. Had you been listening, you would have heard me say that.

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