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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2001 Week 10 Hansard (29 August) . . Page.. 3638 ..

MR QUINLAN: It did not stop you when you manufactured that business a fortnight ago with Mrs Burke.

Mr Humphries: I did not manufacture anything. I did not quote from the text. I understand that there is a convention about not doing that. Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker, you might take advice about whether it is acceptable to quote from the draft Hansard. If it is acceptable under the standing orders, I am happy for that to occur.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: I understand from an interjection that Mr Quinlan is withdrawing his request for leave to make a personal explanation under standing order 46 and now wishes to seek leave to read extracts from Hansard. If leave is granted, Chief Minister, then I am in the hands of the house.

Mr Humphries: As long as I can do the same thing, that is fine.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Are you still seeking leave, Mr Quinlan?

MR QUINLAN: Yes. What I am trying to clear up is that we had the numbers on the table. Mr Humphries has said that the capital cost is going to be $230 million. Then we had some semantic-

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Quinlan, resume your seat. You are debating the issue. As I understand it, you wish to seek leave to make a statement in respect of Hansard.

MR QUINLAN: Yes.

Leave granted.

MR QUINLAN: I heard the Chief Minister's explanation. It is all deja vu in relation to this and Bruce. There is now a difference between rollout cost and capital cost. I do not see the importance of that. If it is going to cost $233 million, it is going to cost $233 million. It seems logical to me. If I have permission, I will read from the draft Hansard:

THE CHAIRMAN: Because I understood, initially, that the overall capital cost was going to be 150 million, right, as opposed to 173.

Mr Perkins: Well, the cost is more than 173. There's no question that the cost of investment is much larger now than in the original investment plan. I haven't got the exact figures in front of me but even with this investment there is still, out in the next year, there's still a shortfall of something in the order of 60 million. Now, that has to be addressed by definition. That can be addressed through TransACT in terms of cost-cutting, additional revenue or additional shareholding.

THE CHAIRMAN: So it's now worth $233 million, that's what it's going to cost?

Mr Perkins: Something of that order, yes.

Mr Humphries: Where is the word "rollout" there.

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