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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2001 Week 9 Hansard (22 August) . . Page.. 3220 ..

MS TUCKER: I am very keen on the evidence-based approach.

Mr Stanhope: If you could apply this legislation to clubs, that would be all right.

MS TUCKER: I think they are reflecting on a previous vote, Mr Speaker.

Mr Stanhope: No. We are suggesting that you move an amendment.

MS TUCKER: Mr Speaker, I think you need to pay attention to Mr Stanhope's interjections here. I am obviously free to reflect on a previous vote, so I will continue the debate. Mr Stanhope, in response to your interjection about the last debate we had, I did refer to the fact that I have an assurance from the gambling commission-

Mr Stanhope: This is an example that did not occur to me

MR SPEAKER: Order! This sounds more like a G8 demonstration.

MS TUCKER: I did say that I had an assurance from the gambling commission that they were able to evaluate the program, so there is a process element to my position on the gambling legislation, believe me.

Mr Berry: There is a bit of reconstruction here.

Mr Moore: I take a point of order. Ms Tucker correctly refers to standing order 52, about reflecting on a vote of the Assembly. I think Mr Stanhope ought to be very careful.

MR SPEAKER: I would ask everybody to be careful.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, I think we were merely reflecting on Ms Tucker.

MS TUCKER: I will have to make personal explanation now under standing order 46. After this, I will seek to make a personal explanation, as I have just been reflected upon by Mr Berry.

On this particular legislation, I will reflect on Mr Osborne. We do not like to see increased police powers for no particular reason, and we will be very worried if it continues to happen in the way it has in this Assembly. That is why we hope we do not have any more police here after October.

The argument appears to be that the police say it would be helpful so the Assembly says, "Okay." The really sad thing is that if you are connected with marginalised groups in our community you realise how very afraid they are of the trend in this Assembly at the moment.

It is important that we take a strong position in this place on issues such as civil liberties. What is the point of this? Why do we need this? Where is the demonstrated need to have the capacity to suddenly infringe on people's civil liberties at the will of the minister of the day.

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