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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 12 Hansard (7 December) . . Page.. 3906 ..

MR HIRD: Thank you very much, Mr Speaker. Let me just say, Mr Quinlan, that a lot of the people who were in this parliament and the people who were in the advisory body -

Mr Corbell: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Order! You have just come in.

Mr Corbell: Mr Hird really should address his remarks to the chair.

MR SPEAKER: Thank you. I uphold the point of order.

Mr Berry: Would you mind getting him to start again? I missed the first bit.

MR SPEAKER: You sit down too. Order!

MR HIRD: Today I will tell you something, Mr Speaker, which will enlighten these rogues across the way. One Jim Fraser gained the opportunity in 1966 to be a voting member in the House of Representatives. He did so with a great deal of dignity and a great deal of effort against his own Labor members and also the then Liberal Party. Today these people tend to forget history. What we are talking about in this regard is history. The former Chief Ministers, Rosemary Follett and Kate Carnell, will be invited to the celebrations.

MR SPEAKER: Relevance please, Mr Hird.

MR HIRD: I am being relevant, sir. I cannot understand, for the life of me, why Mr Berry, a good unionist of 100 years -

MR SPEAKER: Order! Mr Hird, please; we are discussing the centenary of federation.

Mr Berry: You forgot Mr Kaine.

MR SPEAKER: Sit down.

MR HIRD: Mr Kaine, as a former Chief Minister, will be invited. It just shows you that they are relevant sometimes. I urge members to support the motion. I would ask the Leader of the Opposition, in view of the hard work of the former Labor Party, to withdraw his amendment. We are the youngest parliament in the Commonwealth of Australia. Not all members will wish to go, but those of us who were in the Advisory Council, those who fought hard and long to achieve the fruits of today, should be there to celebrate as part of the nation. We should not be there as some isolated group of people. On behalf of 311,000 citizens of this territory, we should be there, sir, and you should not deny us the ability to be able to go.

MR OSBORNE (8.45): After that, Mr Speaker, I've forgotten what I was going to say. I think I will support Mr Stanhope's motion.

Mr Moore: Because you have counted the numbers.

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