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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 9 Hansard (6 September) . . Page.. 2919 ..


Mr Berry: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: he is referring to a part of the bill which is before the house. Now, if that is not anticipating debate-

MR HUMPHRIES: I am allowed to, Mr Speaker. The standing order says I may give information regarding business pending on the notice paper. I may do that and I am doing that now.

MR SPEAKER: Discussion must not be anticipated. That is the qualification.

MR HUMPHRIES: Mr Speaker, I am answering the accusation or the comment that the legislation allows girl guides to be compulsorily examined.

Mr Stanhope: Only if they are over 18 and they offend.

MR HUMPHRIES: Oh, only if they are over 18? You did not mention that on the radio this morning, Mr Stanhope. You forgot to mention that.

Mr Corbell: Yes he did.

Mr Stanhope: It is irrelevant anyway.

Mr Hargreaves: Yes he did. Chronic deafness.

MR HUMPHRIES: Well, I have the transcript here somewhere. I will get the transcript brought down to me, Mr Hargreaves.

Mr Hargreaves: Go and get it. Table it.

MR HUMPHRIES: He does not refer to anybody being over the age of 18. You are wrong, Mr Hargreaves.

Mr Hargreaves: Table it.

MR HUMPHRIES: I will. Mr Speaker, clause 27(3) is about non-intimate forensic procedures on a suspect by order of a police officer. Subclause (3) says:

This Part does not authorise the carrying out of a forensic procedure on a suspect who is a child or incapable person.

So the girl guide cannot be tested against her will under this legislation. Mr Speaker, first of all, the legislation does not allow girl guides to be examined. I am advised by my colleague, the minister for health, that girl guides are under 18.

Secondly, Mr Stanhope, as I recall, cited the example of a person selling unauthorised raffle tickets. I think that was the example he gave. He further quoted today an example of a person who committed any offence being capable of being tested under the legislation. He has overlooked clause 29 of the legislation which says this:

The police officer-


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