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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 7 Hansard (28 June) . . Page.. 2133 ..
MR HARGREAVES
(continuing):I do not have a crystal ball. Ms Lennon came before the estimates committee and she said they are going to get $47,000, but this does not accord with what was in the estimates committee charting. Furthermore, that happened about two months after I made my comment.
Members interjecting
-MR
SPEAKER: Mr Hargreaves, you have the call.MR
HARGREAVES: Mr Speaker, you will note that I have not made the comment that you would ask me to withdraw, although I have got to tell you I was thinking about doing so. The members of the committee will know that I did raise it-and I acknowledge to Mr Osborne that I did raise it on the last day. However, I was not given a satisfactory response. In fact, as Mr Hird will recall, my questions were treated with disdain. The meeting closed particularly quickly and I did not have a chance to follow it up.The mere fact that I put the questions forward should have been enough. When in fact the departmental officials did turn up to the estimates committee, the first thing I did was ask them a question to confirm my suspicions. I put my suspicions in my report. If a member cannot share with this Assembly the suspicions I have, well, bad luck for you, minister. On top of that, the minister poured scorn on what Mr Berry was saying a minute ago about how many people feel that way. I have to say that before I came into this chamber there were many hundreds of people saying to me, "When you get in there tell them to stop bullying us, pal."
Mr
Humphries: Yeah, sure.MR
HARGREAVES: Mr Humphries said, "Yeah, sure." The fact is that he is the one that said he has spent a quarter of his life in this chamber. He has not spent one day out there in the real world. He does not know how his own public servants feel. He does not know that the non-government sector is running scared of this particular government, of which he a second lieutenant. He is just squirming. He is just trying to be a little shifty here to try to get the whole thing through.I have to support Mr Berry's amendment because it makes an awful lot of sense, which is something that has not come across the chamber for some considerable time from that mob opposite.
Debate interrupted in accordance with standing order 74 and the resumption of the debate made an order of the day for a later hour.
MR MOORE (Minister for Health and Community Care): Mr Speaker, I seek leave to make a personal explanation under standing order 46.
Leave granted.
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