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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 4 Hansard (30 March) . . Page.. 1130 ..


Mr Moore (continuing):

comfortable about using public servants' names. Contrast Mr Stanhope who, yesterday when he inadvertently slipped, agreed to have a name taken out of Hansard. But Mr Berry is up to his usual standard in naming public servants.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry's question is in conformity with 117(b)(i),which states:

statements or facts or names of person unless they are strictly necessary to render the question intelligible ...

I accept that. However, I will not accept words such as "odium" being used against these people.

Mr Stanhope: He did not.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, you did say that, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: They have the odium of being associated with these projects.

MR SPEAKER: I would suggest that you use your words with a little more care. I appreciate that you have to name - - -

MR BERRY: I will say that they were unfortunately associated with these matters.

Mr Humphries: He is saying the same thing but in different words.

MR BERRY: I am happy to move on.

MR SPEAKER: Finish your question.

MR BERRY: What do you want me to say? Do you want me to say they were delighted to be associated with them?

MR SPEAKER: I think I understand where your question is coming from.

MR BERRY: Mr Lilley was the most recent one to go. Mr Lilley was around, as we all know - - -

MR SPEAKER: Yes, go on. What is your question? I will sit you down if you make any attack on any of these public servants. I mean it.

MR BERRY: I am not making an attack on anyone. I am trying to suggest some protection for them.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I take a point of order. The clear inference of these references is that there is some odium or some feature of shame or some derogation to be attached - - -

MR BERRY: I withdraw any such imputation.


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