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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 3 Hansard (9 March) . . Page.. 861 ..


Mr Osborne: Mr Speaker, I made the mistake of believing something Mr Berry had told me before that last vote was taken, but I will know better in the future.

MR SPEAKER: There is no point of order, Mr Osborne.

MR BERRY: I am seeking leave. If it is denied, that is fine.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, I am happy to call you after this.

MR BERRY: I will get called after as well. I am seeking leave to speak now.

Mr Moore: No.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Members will come to order. The situation is that any of you can speak only to this amendment, namely, the question that Mr Quinlan's amendment No 2, as amended by Mr Kaine, be agreed to.

MR BERRY: So we can all speak now, can we?

MR SPEAKER: Anybody can speak, to that amendment only.

MR BERRY: What was Mr Osborne speaking to?

Mr Moore: That amendment.

MR BERRY: Okay. I will pick up the issues that he raised. Thank you. Are we ready to go?

MR SPEAKER: If you wish to speak to that amendment, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: I listened to Mr Osborne. I must admit it was quite a surprising speech which denied history. Mr Osborne was in self-denial. Yes, it is true that these agreements were signed by Rosemary Follett and Paul Keating. But strangely missing from Mr Osborne's speech was the period of John Howard and how it was interpreted, the period of Kate Carnell and how it was interpreted, and how Jeff Kennett had a say in this.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry, you are not speaking to the amendment. Get on with it.

MR BERRY: Yes, I am. You allowed Mr Osborne to speak, and I am speaking - - -

MR SPEAKER: And I am telling you that you have to speak to the amendment.

MR BERRY: I am, just as Mr Osborne was. Let us be even-handed here, Mr Speaker. Mr Osborne, you are deluding yourself if you think it was the Labor Party's fault. You are trying to create the impression that it was the Labor Party's fault that you support this Government on this score. How on earth could that be so?


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