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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 3 Hansard (9 March) . . Page.. 821 ..

MR BERRY (continuing):

Is that the sort of certainty you want for them, Mr Rugendyke? Is that the sort of certainty you want for them, Mr Humphries? It is not the sort of certainty I want. I want certainty for the community in the ACT.

Mr Humphries: You have already lost 200 jobs, Wayne. You have lost 200 jobs. There are 200 jobs on your hands. The jobs are still there - in the private sector.

MR BERRY: And you are just undermining it. This is the most appalling piece of work done in the Assembly.

Mr Stanhope: So you are not telling the truth.

MR BERRY: And it has mostly been based on secrecy. You have decided not to give the details to the Assembly before it makes its decision.

Mr Humphries: I rise on a point of order, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. Mr Stanhope has just called across the chamber "you are not telling the truth" directly to me. I think that is a reflection and I ask that it be withdrawn.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Order! Leader of the Opposition, did you use that phrase?

Mr Stanhope: It needs to be put into context. The Attorney actually agreed that when the Government - - -

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: No, we do not need to debate it. Did you use that phrase?

Mr Stanhope: In context I did, yes - in a context which I need to explain.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Did you use that?

Mr Stanhope: I asked the Attorney whether he was telling the truth, but I am not sure he was.

Mr Humphries: No, you said, "You're not telling the truth". It was an assertion.

Mr Stanhope: If that is what you heard I withdraw it, but I really do want to put it in context.

Mr Berry: What he really meant was: "We've been Gary-ed".

MR STANHOPE (Leader of the Opposition) (4.35): There are some comments I would like to make in addition to those I made when addressing the motion. I will not repeat the points I have made previously, but there are some issues that have arisen in the debate on Ms Tucker's amendment to which I would like to respond.

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