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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 2000 Week 3 Hansard (9 March) . . Page.. 814 ..

Mr Humphries: Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker, my offer has been to all the community via this Assembly, the publicly elected parliament.

MR BERRY: You never made the offer.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Thank you. On the point of order, Mr Hargreaves. Resume your seat, Mr Berry.

Mr Hargreaves: I rise on a point of order. There is no point of order, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. Mr Humphries is merely debating the issue to get that jump on the Hansard and you should have pulled him up long before he got a chance to conclude it.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Resume your seat. There is no point of order. Mr Berry has the call.

MR BERRY: Mr Humphries has been disingenuous in this respect because the unions and the employers have not been given any formal offer.

Mr Humphries: I take another point of order.

MR BERRY: You can jump up all you like, mate. I have got all day.

Mr Humphries: I will, Mr Temporary Deputy Speaker. I ask Mr Berry to resume his seat while I am taking a point of order - as is the usual courtesy. I think to describe me as disingenuous is tantamount to saying that I have misled the Assembly or that I have lied. I ask him to withdraw that suggestion.

MR BERRY: "Disingenuous" is okay. Come on, cut it out. It can be used in this place. It is quite satisfactory. Do not get misled; do not be Gary-ed.

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: Mr Berry, what?

MR TEMPORARY DEPUTY SPEAKER: You have the call. Address your remarks through the chair.

MR BERRY: I return to Mr Rugendyke's claims in respect of this matter. Most of his speech has not gone to issues of substance, because there are no issues of substance with which he has to grapple. The Government has been very careful not to give you any issues of substance. They have given you a wish list and a hope, and all those sorts of things. And you have been suckered in. As you will appreciate, in the future every job that is lost in ACTEW will have your name on it because it is going to be your decision that carries this and we will make sure - - -

Mr Rugendyke: And the 200 that have already been lost have your fingerprints all over them.

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