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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 13 Hansard (9 December) . . Page.. 4267 ..

MR SPEAKER: It is hardly surprising, at 2.30 in the morning.

MR KAINE (2.31 am): The Minister just digs deeper and deeper the hole he is falling into. He started that little lecture with a proposition that money did not solve problems; did not fix things. If you are a police officer or maybe an ambo or a firey, if you happen to have a bit of a problem, 50 grand a time for special purposes over and above anything else that a police officer can get apparently does solve problems. If he says money does not solve the problem, why is he prepared to give any police officer 50 grand? If his argument is valid, he should not be giving them any. So he falls on his own argument and, of course, so does Mr Rugendyke in trying to put up such an inequitable proposal.

MR BERRY (2.32 am): I have a couple of challenges to issue. First, I call on either Mr Rugendyke or Mr Osborne to take Mr Humphries to task for including police among a class of "rorters" who - - -

Mr Stanhope: Apologise.

MR BERRY: Why do you not apologise for that, Gary? If Mr Rugendyke and Mr Osborne were keen to make people apologise for these sorts of things this morning, I would like to see you be consistent and take - - -

Ms Carnell: That's not what he said.

Mr Humphries: I've been Gary-ed.

MR BERRY: The next challenge is this: I would like to throw down the gauntlet to Mr Rugendyke and have him explain to the Assembly amendment 2 moved by Ms Tucker on the blue sheet, which states:

Would you tell us why that should not be supported, please, Mr Rugendyke? I would like to hear your case against that particular amendment.

Question put:

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