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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 1 Hansard (8 December) . . Page.. 4024 ..

MR RUGENDYKE (continuing):

Mr Speaker, these are mechanical amendments necessary because the administrative duties have been transferred from the chief police officer back to the Registrar of Motor Vehicles.

Amendments agreed to.

MR HARGREAVES (5.02): I seek leave to move amendments 3, 4 and 5 together, Mr Speaker.

Leave granted.

MR HARGREAVES: I move:

Thank you, Mr Speaker. I have to say how disappointed I was in the preceding discussion.

Mr Hird: You cannot.

MR HARGREAVES: I can, thank you.

Mr Hird: You cannot reflect on a vote. It is highly disorderly.

MR HARGREAVES: Mr Speaker, would you please ask Mr Hird to become unheard?

MR SPEAKER: We all had a very late night last night. I think it is beginning to show and I would ask all members to settle down.

MR HARGREAVES: I am disappointed, not in the substance, but because of the plea I made that we give some thought to not proceeding as draconically as we need to. Mr Speaker, on this amendment of impounding vehicles and forfeiture, much has been said in debate about the size of the crime. Mr Kaine made a lot of points about matching the punishment with the crime. I thought I could detect a distinct distaste on his part over the possibility of a person copping a significant fine and losing their vehicle for three months on the first offence. And on the second offence we can sell it, auction it, give it away, whatever.

It is amazing that we can just take a motor vehicle off a young boy because it is his second offence at a burnout. And when we take that motor vehicle, we sell it. If we let it go through to next March without taking this out, it may be too late. We will see young people with a second offence copping fines and their car gone. That car might be worth a couple of hundred dollars or a number of thousands of dollars.

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