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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 10 Hansard (14 October) . . Page.. 3150 ..

MS CARNELL (continuing):

directors on boards of ACT companies that come from outside the ACT is simply untrue, and he knows this very well. By the way, Mr Kaine, in fact the company is registered in the ACT, not in Victoria.

I have just been given the information. Yes, remuneration is nil. No travel has been reimbursed. No benefits have been given. We have Sydney-based directors on the TotalCare board. We have Sydney-based directors on the ACTEW board. This is a normal scenario. In fact, it is one that I would encourage, because what we do need to do is make sure we have people who represent a wide range of experience.

MR KAINE: I have a supplementary question, Mr Speaker. The Chief Minister points out that public servants do not get paid. Why then do the articles of association of this company allow the directors to make their own determinations about these matters since they are both public servants? Further, Chief Minister, will you table all resolutions of the board of Bruce Operations Pty Ltd, since the board makes these decisions, concerning remuneration, including the reimbursement of costs to board members, together with details of all payments, including expenses payments, made to those directors and to any other individual - I advise the Chief Minister to read the articles of association carefully in connection with that part - since the establishment of this taxpayer-funded company?

MS CARNELL: Mr Speaker, I actually already answered that question. I made it clear that the remuneration is nil. No travel has been reimbursed and no benefits have been paid. That is a very easy zero dollar figure. It is, I would suggest, quite normal for boards to determine levels of remuneration in most company situations, but, of course, public servants who sit on boards are not entitled to accept any remuneration. There is nobody else on the board, Mr Speaker, so again I make the comment that remuneration is nil, no travel has been reimbursed, and no benefits have been paid. It is quite simple.

Mr Kaine: I raise a point of order, Mr Speaker. My question was: Will the Chief Minister table the resolutions of the board? Will she answer that bit?

Ms Carnell: Mr Speaker, I can answer the question any way I like.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, you can.

Bursars

MR BERRY: My question is to the Minister for Education, our very own Minister for school closures, Bill the bursar-basher.

MR SPEAKER: Order! You will direct your question to the appropriate Minister and use the appropriate term, not what you may think of these demands.

MR BERRY: No, no, this has become common fare, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Do not be cheeky. Just get on with the question.

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