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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 10 Hansard (12 October) . . Page.. 2939 ..


MR MOORE (continuing):

The press statement does identify that we are talking broadly about 2,000 tonnes out there. It is interesting that you people opposite raise the issue of process, care and so forth. I would like to raise another issue of process and care on the part of the person who raised the censure motion.

Ms Tucker: Here we go.

MR MOORE: Ms Tucker, there are some questions. It is always easy to point to somebody else and say, "Your process is entirely inappropriate and unacceptable, and you haven't acted properly". There is a newspaper article, Ms Tucker, containing a photograph showing you standing on top of the load at the contaminated site at the time that you knew there was lead there. This article says:

Greens Member Kerrie Tucker said yesterday that union officials had discovered high levels of lead in the 2000-tonne pile of waste.

It said that the union had intervened a couple of weeks ago to stop the waste being dumped on the tip face until it was tested for hazardous material, and so on. Now, Ms Tucker, when you knew that there was lead in this area did it occur to you that there may be some health and safety issues associated with your being on the site? The question of proper process comes up. Once you knew that there was lead on that site should you have gone there and should you have taken the media with you? Did you wear appropriate safety - - -

Mr Berry: Ah, you should have kept it quiet.

Mr Stanhope: You should have covered it up, Ms Tucker.

MR MOORE: There go the interjections, Mr Speaker. You have warned Mr Berry on a number of occasions.

MR SPEAKER: I have indeed.

MR MOORE: Ms Tucker, there are really important questions here. Did you wear appropriate safety gear? Did you use the appropriate shower because, of course, after dealing with lead, that is entirely appropriate. I notice that Ms Tucker is leaving the chamber at this point when I am about to ask questions of her of how she follows process.

Mr Hargreaves: With leaden heart.

MR MOORE: Mr Speaker, I have to recognise that interjection. That one had a bit of mirth in it - with leaden heart. That is the sort of interjection that ought to be acceptable as opposed to the constant pap we get from over in the back corner there.

I highlight these issues because sometimes people act without thinking through the process properly. In fact, the Minister has followed a proper process. What happened was that people were saying, "Something is wrong about this site. Something is different about this. Let's agree to some testing. Yes, the union is going to do it. That will be okay.


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