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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 7 Hansard (1 July) . . Page.. 2007 ..

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, when I put something on the record - if I say that Mr Stanhope is a liar - then it is entirely appropriate that I should withdraw it, and I understand that. But occasionally I make quiet comments here or there and Mr Stanhope and Mr Quinlan want to draw the attention of the house to that by saying that I have said such a thing. Mr Quinlan now says that, in response to his saying something, I said that he was lying. What was it you said?

Mr Quinlan: I have high standards.

Ms Carnell: He was saying that the economy was struggling. It is obviously not struggling, so it obviously was a lie.

Mr Moore: Mr Speaker, it seems entirely inappropriate to keep dragging these things up like that, especially when you have not heard anything of the kind. Mr Speaker, the comment was made because Mr Stanhope in particular and Mr Quinlan to a much lesser extent continue to say these things blatantly in public. I was not referring to anything said in the chamber. They continually say things blatantly in public that - - -

Mr Stanhope: It is all right to call out, "You're a liar", is it? Are you going to keep doing it?

Mr Moore: Mr Stanhope interjects, "It is all right for you to call out, 'You are a liar' ". This morning Mr Stanhope was forced to withdraw calling me a liar. Mr Speaker, there is a bit of tension here at the moment and it probably will continue as long as they deal with the truth so lightly.

Mr Kaine: Speaking to the point of order, Mr Speaker - - -

MR SPEAKER: Just a moment, please. I am getting tired of this. Resume your seat, Mr Kaine. I have a problem. If I allow these comments to be made, whether I hear them or not, we will have nothing but this sort of smearing back and forth across the chamber. That is the first thing I will say. The second thing I will say is that, if people want to call other people liars, I suggest that they go outside and have the courage to do it there as legal action can be taken against them.

Mr Moore: Not at all, Mr Speaker. Mr Stanhope has been saying for ages that the Chief Minister broke the law.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Sit down, Mr Moore.

Mr Moore: No legal action was taken on that.

MR SPEAKER: Sit down, Mr Moore. That is a matter for individuals. I call Mr Kaine.

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