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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1999 Week 1 Hansard (17 February) . . Page.. 237 ..

Mr Moore: You would like leave?

MR BERRY: Yes, I would like some leave. (Further extension of time granted)

Mr Humphries: He is the Minister.

MR BERRY: We know that.

Mr Humphries: He has been attacked. He is entitled to defend himself.

MR BERRY: We have worked that out. We are up to that. Mr Speaker, hip replacements are elective too. Of course, they make light of these sorts of things.

Mr Moore: They are clinically required.

MR BERRY: These sorts of procedures are extremely important to some people. You made light of circumcisions. They can be very serious.

Mr Moore: And then they will be clinically required.

MR BERRY: Do not apply your own personal standards and prejudices and make light of these sorts of serious procedures.

Ms Carnell: They are not serious. We are talking about non-clinically required.

MR BERRY: They can be very serious. Do not make light of the psychological effects of the need for some restoration work.

Mr Moore: Then they are clinically required.

MR BERRY: No. You tried to create the impression that these procedures were unnecessary. That is the impression you tried to create, Minister, and you made light of them. They are very serious for some people. You are a disgrace.

Mr Moore: That is misrepresenting, Wayne. I said "non-clinically required".

MR BERRY: You are a disgrace. I know the impression you are trying to create. You tried to create the impression that circumcision was not important.

Mr Moore: You are deliberately misrepresenting.

MR SPEAKER: Order, please! Mr Moore, cease interjecting. Let Mr Berry finish. It has been a long day.

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, to cap it all off, this direct interference in the day-to-day management of the hospital, in particular in relation to staffing, is unprecedented. This is the Minister who wants to make decisions about every job that is filled at the hospital.

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