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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1998 Week 5 Hansard (27 August) . . Page.. 1473 ..

MR KAINE (continuing):

I stand by what I said to that public officer then, and I stand by the statement that I made in this place yesterday. I did not then, nor do I now, have in my possession any Cabinet document; nor have I given any such document to any person who was not entitled to it. If the Chief Minister is going to insist on this sort of an attack, I say the same thing to her as I said to Mr Humphries yesterday: "Step outside this place and make that accusation and I will put it to the test any day". I am quite happy to put that contest in the courts of law if that is what the Chief Minister and the honourable Deputy Chief Minister choose to do.

Mr Humphries: Where are the 46 Cabinet documents?

Mr Stanhope: Hear, hear!

MR SPEAKER: Thank you, Mr Kaine.

Mr Kaine: You are a couple of scumbags.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order.

MR SPEAKER: Mr Humphries, are you speaking on the same subject as Mr Kaine and the Chief Minister?

Mr Kaine: Yes, I think the scumbag wants to come back with a response, Mr Speaker.

Mr Humphries: I am on the subject of Mr Kaine's abuse of parliamentary privilege. I would ask him to withdraw, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: Order! Is leave granted for Mr Humphries - - -

Mr Humphries: No, Mr Speaker, I do not want leave; I want to ask, under a point of order, Mr Kaine to withdraw the word "scumbag" in reference to me and the Chief Minister.

Mr Berry: I would like to hear you defend the case.

MR SPEAKER: Order! If the word was used, I ask that it be withdrawn. Mr Kaine, did you use the word?

MR KAINE: I certainly did, Mr Speaker, and I do not resile from it. But again, like yesterday, in deference to you, I will withdraw the word.

MR SPEAKER: And the Assembly. Thank you, Mr Kaine.

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