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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1998 Week 1 Hansard (28 April) . . Page.. 75 ..


MR BERRY: There is no point of order. I have leave.

MR SPEAKER: Order! I will not uphold the point of order at the moment. I have not heard the full explanation.

MR BERRY: Indeed, you have not, Mr Speaker. Certain claims were made about me in question time by the Chief Minister, which you may have heard. If you did not hear them, I suggest that you look at the transcript. Let me proceed, Mr Speaker. Subsequently the then board resigned and the chief executive officer was dismissed.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, Mr Berry needs to clarify what allegation about him is untrue, so that he can clarify it.

MR SPEAKER: I will have to look at the Hansard.

Mr Humphries: He is using the standing order to ramble through the usual diatribe about VITAB in a desperate attempt to rewrite history.

MR SPEAKER: Order! I will have to look at the Hansard in relation to this, but in the meantime - - -

MR BERRY: I will stick to the facts as they occurred, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: You are making a personal explanation.

MR BERRY: Indeed, and it is in relation to me and in relation to certain things that the Chief Minister said during question time. Subsequent to that, the then new chair of the TAB negotiated a $3m settlement.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I have to press my point of order. We do not know what the allegation is that Mr Berry says Mrs Carnell made of him falsely. We need to know that so that we can see how relevant is the answer he is giving to that particular matter. He has the right to make a personal explanation in respect of a matter on which he has been misrepresented. On what has he been misrepresented?

MR SPEAKER: I uphold Mr Humphries's point of order to this extent: We are now talking about some other chairman of the TAB. The personal explanation relates to you personally, Mr Berry, not other chairmen of the TAB. Would you please complete your personal explanation.

MR BERRY: Certain claims were made about me, Mr Speaker, which I am entitled to refute. The Chief Minister made certain untrue claims about me which I will refute and will continue to refute. The then chair of ACTTAB - - -

Ms Carnell: Mr Speaker, you cannot have a personal explanation and not say which claims.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, that is true.


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