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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 12 Hansard (13 November) . . Page.. 4117 ..

Mr Humphries: On a point of order, Mr Speaker: Mr Berry has leave to - - -

MR BERRY: Miscalculations - - -

MR SPEAKER: Order, Mr Berry! Just a moment; there is a point of order.

Mr Humphries: It is courtesy to resume your seat, Mr Berry, when a point of order is taken.

MR SPEAKER: Yes.

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, Mr Berry has leave to speak specifically to deny a meeting with Mr Carr on the issue of ACTEW. Unless these issues were discussed with Mr Carr at the meeting, I think they are irrelevant to the matter for which he has leave to speak.

MR BERRY: No; certain accusations were made. I have to cover the grounds for the accusations and the background to the accusations. Surely that is allowable, Mr Speaker.

MR SPEAKER: I will listen carefully, but I caution you about relevance, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: Indeed. This is entirely relevant, because it is about the Chief Minister saying to this Assembly anything that comes into her head to present the picture she wishes to present. This does not have anything to do with the truth or her obligations, as the Chief Minister of this Territory, to ensure that the information that comes before this Assembly does so in an honest and straightforward way.

I do not mind my association with the Labor Party, its policies or my meetings with various politicians around the country - Liberal or Labor - being criticised. I do not even care if the claims are true. But what does bother me is when information is put to this Assembly which is untrue. This statement by the Chief Minister was deliberately designed to take the heat off her because of the problems that the Government has had in relation to - - -

Mrs Carnell: Just say it is either wrong or right and see what happens.

Ms McRae: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: You have ruled before on interjections, may I remind you.

MR SPEAKER: Yes, thank you. I uphold the point of order.

MR BERRY: Let me go to Mr Moore's amendment that was subsequently carried by the Assembly. Mr Moore is keen to protect his investment in this Liberal Government - - -

Mr Humphries: Mr Speaker, I rise on a point of order. This is a matter that has already been debated and voted on by the Assembly. He is either reflecting on a vote of the Assembly or, at best, being irrelevant to the matter presently before the house.

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