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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 11 Hansard (4 November) . . Page.. 3557 ..

Mrs Carnell: And the agenda has to be agreed by all leaders.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mrs Carnell, I am sure that Mr Berry is well aware of that. Mr Berry was talking about the difference between Labor's approach to COAG and the Liberals' approach to it.

Mrs Carnell: Madam Deputy Speaker, he is not speaking about that.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: No; because you are interjecting.

Mrs Carnell: I would like you to rule on the issue of relevance.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have ruled on the issue of relevance.

Mrs Carnell: You have not.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: I have said - - -

Mrs Carnell: So you have said that it is relevant?

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mrs Carnell, I have said that Mr Berry is well aware of the rules on relevance and he may now proceed. Proceed, Mr Berry.

MR BERRY: The whole issue here is the contrast between the way that the Carnell Liberal Government and her preferred Prime Minister treat the ACT and the way it was done when Labor was in office in both places. I think it is very clear, Madam Deputy Speaker, that the results were better.

Mr Kaine: On a point of order, Madam Deputy Speaker: I think what Mr Berry is trying to say is that the way that the Chief Minister conducts business with COAG is not what Mr Berry thinks it might be if he ever gets to be Chief Minister. It is a big difference.

MR BERRY: That is pretty right.

Mr Kaine: And there is no difference, in fact, between the way the Chief Minister deals with COAG and the way the former Chief Minister dealt with COAG. They both dealt with COAG in the same way. Mr Berry can fantasise, he can invent, he can innovate; but he cannot alter the facts of what COAG exists for.

MR BERRY: I think that is a bit of a statement.

MADAM DEPUTY SPEAKER: Mr Kaine, I have asked Mr Berry to remain aware of the rules of relevance and I am sure that he will.

MR BERRY: I will keep my eye on the job. Thank you, Madam Deputy Speaker.

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