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Legislative Assembly for the ACT: 1997 Week 7 Hansard (24 June) . . Page.. 1968 ..

Pool and Leisure Centres - Employees' Wages and Conditions

MR SPEAKER: Mr Berry - at last, formally, without making a noise.

MR BERRY: If people on that side would observe the standing orders - - -

MR SPEAKER: When you were interjecting!

MR BERRY: Mr Speaker, my question without notice is to Mr Stefaniak in his capacity as Minister for Sport and Recreation. Minister, when the terms and conditions were drawn up to lease the Civic pool to Leisure Australia, were wages and working conditions for employees included in those terms and conditions?

Mrs Carnell: This was done at arm's length from the Government. The Minister did not do it.

MR STEFANIAK: I really am amazed at Mr Berry's question, Mr Speaker. As I hear the Chief Minister interject, it was done at arm's length from the Government. Mr Berry, I understand that, in relation to terms and conditions that Leisure Australia and I think their employees - - -

Mr Berry: You do not know?

MR STEFANIAK: No; I do, Mr Berry. They employ their own staff. I understand, Mr Berry, that they have also successfully negotiated an enterprise bargaining agreement with their employees at the Civic centre and at the Tuggeranong Leisure Centre.

Mr Berry: That is not the question I asked.

MR SPEAKER: That is the answer you are getting.

Mr Berry: Mr Speaker, on a point of order: The Minister seems to have completely misunderstood my question. My question - - -

Mrs Carnell: That is not a point of order. Mr Speaker, can we suggest three strikes and you are out in question time - three stupid points of order and you are out?

Mr Berry: No. You can raise points of order all day.

Ms McRae: Mr Speaker, can we suggest that there is another Speaker in this house and perhaps she would like to take over?

MR SPEAKER: Would you all like to go outside and have a private conversation about this?

Mr Berry: No. We would just like the Minister to answer the question.

MR SPEAKER: He is answering it. There is no point of order.

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